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PLAYBACK (2015): Could the Next Brooklyn Be ... Las Vegas?!

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🗓️ 6 December 2020

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Tony Hsieh, the longtime C.E.O. of Zappos, was an iconoclast and a dreamer. Five years ago, we sat down with him around a desert campfire to talk about those dreams. Hsieh died recently from injuries sustained in a house fire; he was 46.

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0:00.0

Hey there, Steven Dubner. We are breaking into your feed with an extra episode this week.

0:09.5

This is a playback of an episode we put out in 2015. It is about how one man, a soft

0:17.0

spoken but wildly interesting and accomplished man, had a vision and acted upon. His name

0:24.0

is Tony Shea. For more than two decades he was CEO of the shoe company Zappos. He was

0:30.0

known in the tech and entrepreneurial communities and beyond as an iconoclast and a dreamer,

0:36.8

maybe even a seeker. Before recording this episode in Las Vegas, I had met Shea just once

0:43.1

or twice before with my friend and co-author Steve Levit. Both of us were really taken

0:48.1

with Shea himself and a book he published called Delivering Happiness. About a week ago, Tony Shea

0:54.4

died at age 46. When I heard the news, I dug into our archives to play back the episode.

1:03.2

I thought you might all like to hear it too. Keep in mind that some of the facts and figures

1:08.1

are now outdated. We'll add a few updates at the end. Shea himself doesn't actually appear

1:13.2

until the second half of the episode, but as you'll hear his ghost is sort of floating

1:18.1

through the first half too. You'll also hear that his drink of choice was for Net

1:22.9

Branca. If you like a drink now and again, you might want to pour one out now for Tony.

1:30.6

We're standing at the corner of Ogden Avenue and Las Vegas Boulevard North. In Las Vegas,

1:44.8

Nevada. Nevada? Nevada. It is Nevada. Oh God, I had it wrong the whole time. I always

1:50.6

try to be so respectful of the way that a place is pronounced in the place where it is,

1:55.8

like Oregon, I think. Oregon? Now I'm probably wrong on that.

1:58.6

I know you're right on that. It isn't New Year'sy, right?

2:02.6

And we're looking up at the Ogden. The Ogden is a luxury condo building in downtown Las

2:09.2

Vegas. Not on the strip, the famous part of the city with all the huge hotels and casinos

2:14.4

and glitter. The old downtown is about five miles north of the strip, but it's still

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