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that'll soak you to the skin. By Monday, temperatures will rise slowly but surely reaching

their peak in the afternoon.

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Sun Express, non-stop sunshine. Music Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nerdy.

Today is Monday, November 10th, 2025, and I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara, Santa Maria.

And as always, before we dive into this week's episode, I want to thank those of you who make Talk Nerdy possible.

Remember, this show is and will always be 100% free to download.

And the way that we keep paying for all of the things that we have to pay for to keep making the show is by relying on the support of individuals just like you.

I use the platform Patreon.

That's where you can pledge any dollar amount towards each individual episode, all the way from, you know, a dollar on up.

And I want to thank this week's top patrons. They include Chuck

Blell, David J.E. Smith, Daniel Lang, Mary Neva, Joseph Lamore, Anu Badovaj, David Compton,

Brian Holden, Gabrielle F. Harmeo, Ulrika Hagman, Pasquale Jalati, and Joe Wilkinson.

Thank you all so, so much. So this week, I had the opportunity to chat with Cass Holman. She's the founder and chief designer of Heroes Will

Rise, which is a toy company. It's so cool. She's also a former professor of industrial design at Rhode Island School

of Design. And she is an expert on the value of play. She has a new book out that she co-wrote

with Lydia Denworth called Playful. How Play shifts our thinking, inspires connection, and sparks creativity.

So without any further ado, here she is Cass Holman.

Well, Cass, thank you so much for joining me today.

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