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Here comes Eric Metaxus.

So, I have to ask, you, so you debunkn a number of things, and one of them is, you know, I thought, what's the most shallow question I could possibly ask you?

And that has to do, of course, with the existence of Atlantis, because we know of Atlantis from Plato, and there have been many, many theories,

you destroy our hopes.

Talk a bit about that,

just because I'm fascinated about what we can know

and what we can't know,

and you make it pretty clear.

There's no trace of the Atlanta story before Plato,

so that implies that he made it up.

Secondly, as I understand it, Atlantis to the people who believe in its existence, or however

one wants to say it, is a place of enlightened beings doing good and, I don't know, controlling the world through, who knows, laser beams from space or something, anything's possible.

But that's not Plato's story at all.

In Plato, in the Temaeus and the Critias, the two dialogues where he develops this myth, The Atlanteans are the baddies.

They're corrupt and they're invading Europe

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