Plasma, Consciousness & the Future of Anomalous Studies

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

SpectreVision Radio

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Documentary

4.5 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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What if 99% of the universe holds the key to understanding UFOs, paranormal phenomena, and even consciousness itself? In this episode, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King dive deep into the plasma hypothesis—a paradigm-shifting idea that plasma, the fourth state of matter, may act as a substrate for intelligence. Fresh from the University of Exeter workshop on plasma cosmology (with thinkers like Robert Temple, Jeffrey Kripal, Bernard Carr, and Nick Cook), Kelly unpacks the conversations that are reshaping the frontier of science and anomalous studies. Together, Kelly and Jay explore: What plasma actually is and why it makes up nearly all of the visible universe. Robert Temple’s groundbreaking book A New Science of Heaven and its implications for UFOs and consciousness studies. Why orb encounters and plasma-like phenomena may be central to the experiencer narrative. The limits of materialist explanations—and why plasma may not explain everything. How process philosophy and transpersonal psychology open new frameworks for exploring intelligent plasma. The overlap between orbs, UFOs, cryptids, and the land of the dead. The risks of overreach and the need to resist turning plasma into the next “quantum” catch-all. From the cutting edge of astrophysics to the lived realities of experiencers, this conversation wrestles with the biggest question of all: could plasma be the hidden medium of mind, matter, and mystery? ✨ Join the conversation and go deeper: Cosmosis Community on Patreon – ad-free episodes, monthly calls, private Discord, and more: CosmosisCommunity.com Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – now streaming on Amazon, Apple TV, and multiple platforms: Cosmosis.MediaMusic for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio. Resources & References Robert Temple, A New Science of Heaven: https://a.co/d/9cIc6Ec Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://cosmosiscommunity.com Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 01:51 Diving into Plasma Cosmology 03:45 Understanding Plasma: The Fourth State of Matter 06:55 The Potential of Plasma as a Substrate for Intelligence 09:53 Speculations on Plasma and Anomalous Phenomena 14:14 Challenges in Defining Plasma Intelligence 20:26 Exploring Plasma's Physical and Non-Physical Interactions 27:49 Philosophical Perspectives on Plasma Intelligence 31:53 Exploring Paranormal Phenomena 32:40 Interdimensional Theories and Consciousness 34:44 Plasma and Human Connection 35:24 Historical UFO Cases 38:35 Life, Death, and Plasma Phenomena 48:23 Orbs and UFOs: A Deeper Look 56:40 Future Research and Exploration 58:55 Closing Remarks and Community Engagement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You live your whole life and then in one second you learn what it's like for primal terror to swallow you, mind and body.
0:16.0	He was standing in the hallway, lit only on his left side by the bulb.
0:26.5	Just as he appeared in the photograph I'd found, he was very small, much shorter than his
0:32.3	brother, my father, Eric. The family had said he'd always been boy-faced and a bit skinny. Now, standing
0:40.9	there, he looked old and sick as well. But he looked angry, too. Not for a moment that I think
0:49.7	he was alive, and some terrible mistake had been made. I knew instinctively that he was not really there, that I was looking at Herman in the depleted
1:00.5	physical state he had died in.
1:04.0	He was wrong, he said again, his whole body trembling slightly.
1:09.6	He jabbed his finger toward me, almost in tears.
1:13.7	I could have been a chemist.
1:15.6	I had the grades.
1:18.3	I think I tried to speak then, but it was stable.
1:22.3	Uncle Herman kept his finger pointed in a threatening way,
1:26.6	as if it were up to me to change the past.
1:30.6	He turned with creaky slowness and took a couple of steps deeper into the hallway, toward the kitchen,
1:37.7	leaving all light behind him, becoming a silhouette.
1:41.5	He turned back just before he reached the threshold of the other room. His face was a
1:46.8	black blur, but his voice was still clear. There's a fourth body, you know, he said, voice,
1:54.9	hoarse. Shovel still in the shed.
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