This is the Potter's Cast.

A podcast home for potters everywhere.

It's a community of potters dedicated to grow their business.

We're picking up where the art degree ends.

I'm your host, Paul Blaze.

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Episode number 869 has just begun.

The last of the 60s.

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Hey, welcome to the Potter's cast.

So stoked, we are hanging out together today.

And we've had a great week, at least here in the Blaze household, here at the world headquarters of the potters cast.

Yes.

Hey, today's guest, I just, I had a really good time talking with him.

His name is Emmanuel Umana, and he's a dude that has just graduated.

But more than this, we talk about the idea about planning and he's a dude that has just graduated.

But more than this, we talk about the idea about planning for the future.

And so, you know, we obviously get his story, we get his journey, we talk about that,

but then we get into the nitty-gritty of it it and we start talking about planning for the future and

kind of the approach he takes. And so it's an interesting conversation. So I'm not going to spend

a lot of time here at the beginning of the show yucking it up with you and said, let's jump

to this conversation that I had with

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