Planet Normal: Live, with Lionel Shriver and Suella Braverman
Planet Normal
Louisa Wells
4.7 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 91 minutes
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Your co-pilots have braved the atmosphere of planet Earth as the rocket touches down at the Emmanuel Centre in London for a live recording of Planet Normal!
To mark the occasion, your co-pilots are joined by two of the most fearless voices to navigate a country they fear is currently on an ‘economic cliff edge’.
The first revered stowaway on the rocket today is Lionel Shriver: The celebrated satirical novelist discusses her provocative new book, A Better Life. She pulls no punches while exploring the naivete of the progressive left and the ruthlessness often overlooked in the immigration debate.
Also strapping in for lift-off is Suella Braverman KC MP in her first appearance since her high-profile defection to Reform UK. She reveals the ‘list of great betrayals’ she witnessed at the heart of government and explains why she believes the Conservative Party has abandoned the principles of Margaret Thatcher.
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph |
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| 0:18.0 | One We have the top. |
| 0:29.3 | Thank you. |
| 0:33.6 | Welcome once again to plan I know the celebrate roll with Alice and Pearson |
| 0:41.3 | and me and Halland. |
| 0:43.3 | I'm going to. |
| 0:45.3 | So here we are co-pilot on a 300th episode, give or take. |
| 0:53.3 | Who'd have thanked it when we started out back in early 2020? |
| 0:57.0 | Six years on that we'd still be talking to each other. |
| 1:01.0 | And that we'd still have this with a buildless nationwide, indeed worldwide audience for |
| 1:07.0 | Planet Norma. When we first launched the rocket of right thinking, |
| 1:10.0 | for our weekly trips to Planet Normal, |
| 1:12.8 | Boris Johnson was still Prime Minister, |
| 1:14.9 | and you didn't even know what the podcast was. |
| 1:17.6 | We've since had three more Prime Ministers |
| 1:19.6 | and we could yet have another one |
| 1:21.5 | long before this Parliament |
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