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Good morning. This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast.

Today's episode is going to be a longer one, part of the series where I

interview fascinating people about how they take their days from great to awesome and any

advice they have for the rest of us. So today I am delighted to welcome Sarah Hart Unger back to

Before Breakfast. Sarah is my co-host on the Best of Both World's podcast, so some of you may know her from there. She also hosts the

Best Laid Plans podcast and is the author of the brand new book, which is out next week, called Best Laid Plans.

So Sarah, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be on before breakfast.

Yeah, we're excited to have you back. So tell our listeners a little bit about yourself. Yeah, so first of all, I am Laura's podcasting partner

on Best of Both Worlds, as she mentioned, and I am a physician. I'm a pediatric endocrinologist

working in South Florida. I have three kids ages eight. I'm trying to think of how old they'll be when this air is 11 and 13 as of this airing.

I just wrote a book called Best Laid Plans, a simple planning system for living a life that you love.

And I have my own website and podcast called Best Laid Plans about all things planning and planning adjacent.

Yeah, so you are an expert in all things planning and planning adjacent.

Now you have written a book about, would you say it's about how to plan?

Is it about the theory of planning?

Why don't you tell us a little bit about that?

There's a little bit of theory in that I work very hard to convince readers that most people

benefit from spending a bit more time planning than

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