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Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning.

This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is about how to plan for fun in uncertain times.

Longtime listeners know that I really love to plan. In particular, I love my lists.

Every year around this time, I post a summer fun list over at my website, Laura Vandercam.com,

consisting of activities that make summer feel like summer to me.

Some are perennials like strawberry picking and others are based on summer

vacation plans like a Disney trip we've booked for late August and early September.

Planning lets us anticipate our fun.

This year though, there's a lot of uncertainty.

Will amusement parks even be open?

Will the stay-at-home order be lifted before the strawberry season is over?

I've read a few think pieces about how this is all teaching us the futility of planning, but I think that would be a

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