Plan B on rap, soul and our degraded moral system

Unfiltered with Oli Dugmore

Unfiltered with Oli Dugmore || JOE Media

Society & Culture

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🗓️ 30 April 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Before he was Plan B, a young man called Ben Drew was growing up in London’s Forest Gate. With a guitar and the music of Smokey Robinson to work with, Ben set about becoming what he is today: a chronicler of our times. In this enthralling interview with James O’Brien, Ben shares his story, a story that is inextricably tied to his music, experiencing violence at home from a young age and losing friends to crack and heroin, and how he channelled those stories into songs, breaking into the mainstream, and coming home to share the positive power of music in the community that shaped him.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Unfiltered with James O'Brien. Welcome to episode 29 of Unfiltered with the sort of soul singer and hip-hop artist
0:20.0	Plan B. The first question I'll ask him is how do I address him? But this guy, I can't
0:25.4	wait to get to know this guy a bit better because I know it can sometimes be a bit
0:29.4	pompous to describe popular culture in quite high fluting terms but he is a chronicler of our
0:35.8	times and also of a class divide that I think is is more pronounced in modern
0:41.4	Britain than perhaps it has been at any other point in my memory.
0:45.0	So he's here to talk about his new album, Heaven Before All Hell Breaks Loose,
0:50.0	which is out on May the 4th.
0:52.0	But if you just scan over some of the stuff he's done both professionally
0:56.0	and personally, and you know about the stuff he's done personally because of the way he's sung
1:00.1	about it professionally, then you'll understand why I've got a feeling that
1:03.2	we're going to cover quite a lot of ground. How does it work? I'm a 46 year old, profoundly uncool individual,
1:16.5	so I now worry about addressing you as Mr B, Plan B, Mr Drew, Ben,
1:22.0	what's the, how should I address?
1:25.0	Ben's fine, is it?
1:26.0	Yeah.
1:27.0	So where did Plan B come from then?
1:28.0	Let's start with that.
1:29.0	When you get into the rap game, you need a rap name and you know as a kid you go through a lot of
1:36.4	stupid things that have nothing to do with who you are so I went through a lot of those
1:42.4	stupid names.
1:44.0	What response to do you reject?
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