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Sign up now to listen at slate.com slash mood. Hello and welcome back to another episode of Big Mood Little Mood.

I'm your host, Daniel M. Lavery, and with me in the studio this week is Thivia Victor, a poet, author, and an associate professor of English at Michigan State University.

She recently published Curb, which documents how immigrants and Americans navigate the liminal sites of

everyday living.

If you're welcome to the show.

Hi, Dani.

It's really great and exciting to be here.

Thank you for having me.

I am so looking forward to this.

I'm particularly looking forward to, you know, more than usual, I think, we have some out-of-the-way questions. I often get a lot of

questions about dating relationships. And so it's kind of nice to have an episode with none,

where that's the sort of primary site of conflict. And at least one of these is something that I

have never given advice about before. So I'm looking forward to

finding out what advice is possible there. Absolutely. Yes, you're right. Some, some interesting

and complicated questions ahead. I'm especially glad to have a professor on the show today

because one of our questions is, I remember reading that question and thinking, you know, both,

I'm glad that they're reaching out for advice, but also this seems like a question for your department

chair. Absolutely. Okay, good. Good. I'm glad that my initial reaction was not too far off base.

I will ask you to read our first letter. It's very exciting. It is exciting. Okay, it's such a

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