I feel like people skepticism about AI, even though what they're saying is it doesn't work.

It's more about a kind of leftover hangover feeling of every time someone shows up promising

a transformative technology, it has massive downsides that don't become clear until it's too

late.

And I think people's concern about all sorts of people being their jobs being in peril

because of AI.

I think that's entirely legitimate.

But I think instead of saying that, people are like, well, it doesn't work anyway.

I'm Chris Hill, and that's PJ Vote.

Host of the recent podcast series, Crypto Island, Ricky Mulvey caught up with Vote to talk

about whether sports betting is the new crypto, a problem for Google that goes beyond a faulty

chatbot and where Mark Zuckerberg may be missing the mark on virtual reality.

We're going to get away from crypto in a sec, but I think it's worth mentioning it talking

about for a little bit because you had an in-depth show about it.

Is sports betting the new crypto?

I'm getting the vibe that sports betting is the new crypto.

That's a good question.

I will say I have noticed that a lot of the crypto degenerates, as they would call themselves,

who I think were already, I think a lot of them, I think a good number of them either came

out of sports betting or were doing sports betting alongside of it.

They're talking much more on social media about sports betting right now.

Like I think if some large part of the appeal of crypto was just sort of deregulated, deregulated

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