Pizza, Pinocchio and the Papacy: Finding the Very Best and Very Worst of Italy

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🗓️ 20 March 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

What do Italian unification, Pinocchio and pizza have in common? In this episode preview from History of the Papacy, host Steve Guerra dives in!

The Risorgimento was a period of political and social upheaval in Italy that lasted from the early 19th century to the mid-20th century. The movement aimed to unite the various states and regions of Italy into one unified nation. Pinocchio, the beloved children's story written by Carlo Collodi, can be seen as a metaphor for Italian unification through the character's journey from a wooden puppet to a real boy. And last but not least, let's talk about pizza. Italy's most famous export, pizza, is a symbol of the country's rich cultural heritage and culinary traditions. Whether you're a fan of traditional Margherita or a more unconventional topping, there's a pizza for everyone.

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1:27.0	What I was always thinking is with Pius IX, the deal that the Italian government gives him is
1:56.0	probably about as good of a deal as you can absolutely give someone there.
2:01.0	You can have this bit of land.
2:03.0	It's not a ton of land, but it's his own property.
2:07.0	The papacy gets to control certain churches around the city.
2:12.0	They didn't really have to do any of that, but they also knew that there's a lot of cat likes around and if they're too tough on him, that it's going to play well.
2:23.0	But every single I think that Pius IX, I don't think he was a brilliant tactician.
2:29.0	I don't think he was a brilliant person with any of the political person, but I think he really understood messaging and the public relations.
2:39.0	He won the PR battle because he could explain his situation in a minute, but it took them three minutes to explain.
2:48.0	Even though their position was really reasonable in a lot of ways, they couldn't get the message across.
2:54.0	I can't, there was a person who said that the person who takes three minutes to explain their position is never going to beat the person who can explain there's in one.
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