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Bad Gays

Pim Fortuyn

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.5 • 934 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The fairy godmother of the new European far-right. A vile racist named "The Greatest Dutchman of All Time" in a 2004 TV poll. A lens into how a particular version of homosexuality is compatibile with a particular kind of far-right politics – how a certain kind of “live and let live” attitude at the heart of white liberal gay politics can immediately turn into a wave of immigrant-bashing hatred that turns, inevitably, on queer people themselves. “I don’t hate Arab men," he said. "I even sleep with them.”  ----more---- Kolbert, Elizabeth. "Beyond Tolerance: What did the Dutch see in Pim Fortuyn?" The New Yorker. September 9, 2002. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/09/09/beyond-tolerance Margry, Peter Jan. "The Murder of Pim Fortuyn and Collective Emotions. Hype, Hysteria and Holiness in The Netherlands." Etnofoor: antropologisch tijdschrift 16 (2003): 106-131.  Osborn, Andrew. "Dutch Fall for Gay Mr. Right." The Observer. April 14, 2002. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/14/andrewosborn.theobserver Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien, downloaded from WFMU's Free Music Archive and distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Season 2, Episode 6 of Bad Gays, a podcast all about complicated and bad gay men from history.

0:28.9

My name's Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author.

0:31.7

And I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher and member of the board of the Gay Museum in Berlin.

0:36.3

Last week we talked about the colonialist, Gordon of Khartoum.

0:39.8

Who are we talking about this week?

0:41.4

This week, we're talking about someone who in 2002 was profiled on the front page of the

0:47.3

Europe section of the Guardian under the headline,

0:50.5

Dutch fall for gay Mr. Wright.

0:53.7

Here's the article.

0:55.0

Quote,

0:55.9

Under the watchful gaze of his black-clad, dark-skinned bodyguards,

1:00.2

the flamboyant, white-skinned, and shaven-headed homosexual,

1:03.6

who aspires to be the Netherlands next Prime Minister,

1:06.4

outlines his views on immigration.

1:08.8

The Netherlands is not an immigration country, he tells his audience.

1:12.6

The annual stream of tens of thousands of newcomers, who largely end up as illegal aliens, must

1:17.9

stop. Full is full. We're living on a small piece of land here. The article, which described

1:24.3

him as, quote, the new dynamic face of the right in Europe, noted that he had just come from nowhere to dominate local elections in Rotterdam.

1:32.9

Quote, the unconventional candidate with a pension for lapdogs and luxury is forecast to win 20% of the national vote.

1:40.8

Why is the liberal media so obsessed with the style and haircuts of these people?

1:48.1

That is a question, the answer to which is still putting all of us in profound danger.

1:55.3

This is 20 years before Richard Spencer almost, and they're still saying, oh, here's this hot guy from the far

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