Hello and welcome to True Crime Daily's The Sidebar, taking you inside the courtrooms

of high profile and notorious cases from across the country.

I'm your host, Joshua Ritter, I'm a criminal defense lawyer based here in Los Angeles

and previously an LA County prosecutor for nearly a decade.

In this week's episode, we're going to try to do something a little bit differently.

Usually we like to cover cases that are currently in the news from a legal perspective,

but today we will be taking a deeper dive into cases with a view towards the forensic science

involved in solving the cases and presenting that evidence in court.

First, we're going to talk about the brutal killing of eight family members in Pike County, Ohio,

allegedly motivated by a custody dispute turned deadly. Plus the autopsy of Tammy Debel,

whose death was initially deemed to be natural, but she was exhumed after her husband

Chad Debel and his new wife Lori Valow were implicated in the disappearance of Lori's children,

a really tragic case. And finally, the slaying of a woman in Atlanta Park, who suffered 50

stab wounds and one year after her death, no killer or motive has been determined.

The reason we are having this special episode today is we are joined by Joseph Scott Morgan,

a former medical examiner and expert in applied forensics and host of the Body Bag's podcast,

welcome, Joseph. Thanks for having me, Josh. Could it be here with you and your fans?

Absolutely. Before we jump into these cases, give us, I talked a little bit about your background,

but tell us a little bit about your background and the current position that you have.

Yeah, yeah. Let's see. I'm a Louisianaian by birth and started my career with the Jefferson

Parish Corners office in the New Orleans metro area. So for me, living in arguably one of the

greatest port cities in the world as a young investigator with a corner down there, I was

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