Pigeons, The Forgotten Survival Animal – Epi-3846

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Society & Culture, Philosophy

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🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Today we are joined by Phillip Fry, host of the All About Pigeons podcast and a man who has spent years studying one of the most overlooked animals in human history. Phillip lives off grid in Arizona where he built his own home and maintains a self sufficient lifestyle that includes raising pigeons for both practical and historical reasons. Beyond the hobby side of things, Phillip sees pigeons as a serious tool for communication, food production, and resilience in a world increasingly dependent on fragile modern systems. Phillip’s podcast covers every corner of the pigeon world including racing birds, rollers, … Continue reading →

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0:00.0	And we're a better way to do this.
0:08.8	Let me show you a better way.
0:16.0	You don't have to be another face in the crowd.
0:20.5	And we are live, folks, a few minutes early on a day that we are live, folks.
0:22.6	A few minutes early on a day that we are very, very early, and I'm interested to see what that will do to the live stream turnout.
0:31.2	We usually are going live somewhere between about 11 a.m. to 12.30 p.m. Central daylight time in the summer anyway. But today we made some
0:41.2	accommodations for a guest because of time zone differences and things like that. And so we are
0:46.2	live not only early, but a day later than normal. We're here on a Thursday instead of a Wednesday.
0:50.7	That's why we had expert counsel yesterday. But I'm really kind of stoked about this.
0:56.6	We're going to have Philip on in just a minute from the All About Pigeons podcast located at pigeonpod.com.
1:03.9	And we're going to be talking pigeons today. We're going to be talking about pigeons as a lot of things as a means of communication which they
1:13.2	were traditionally used for at a time we you know you couldn't just pick up the phone and reach
1:18.2	out and touch someone right and they're still useful for that but they also are a tremendous
1:24.1	potential livestock animal and serve some other really great purposes.
1:27.9	I actually personally go back a little bit with this.
1:31.3	I was talking to Philip before we got live on the air.
1:35.7	My great Uncle Pete, who lived only one house north of my grandfather and my grandmother.
1:41.2	He was my grandmother's brother.
1:43.1	That was the familial relationship. He was a pigeon man. He had about a three-acre place and a pretty good
1:48.4	size coop, and he raised pigeons. Pennsylvania is one of the places where we actually
1:54.5	shoot pigeons in competitions. That's one of the few states where that's legal. I don't even
1:59.1	know if it's legal anymore. It was legal back in the 70s and 80s. And he was really good at his craft. And, you know, nothing was wasted, too. When a bird was dead, the bird's dead. And so then it's actually quite edible. So it was an interesting thing to grow up with kind of in my backyard of some I've always kind of
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