So the other thing we have to address is we had talked about a segment ago, I got this text message from, it was clearly some account not from any sort of government into you.

It was at mail.com. And it said, oh, you're, you have unpaid tolls.

It's so funny. While you were talking about that, I got a text. Hi, I'm Zoe. So you, okay, so Kevin said,

as you were talking about this. Kevin said that he had gotten one, two, we had discussed, that's

definitely spam, somebody trying to get you to click a link to whatever, but then you got into,

there's another thing that's happening, and I've had this too, where you get a text from a random number going something like, like you said, hi, I'm Zoe, or you'll get a text going, Kenny and I are going to the golf course tomorrow. Would you like to join us?

Hi, how are you?

And so we start talking about what are these? What is the premise? And then producer Carl, Tony's fabulous producer.

Yep. You said PBS ran a documentary all about this. Yeah, it was a news piece.

So this is, you know, I mean, it's PBS.

So it's not some random conspiracy theory show that I was listening to.

As usually you usually do.

Yeah.

So what's going on now is a thing called pig butchering.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

It's called what?

Pig butchering.

And it's a criminal organized criminal. pig butchering. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's called what? Pig butchering. Mm-hmm.

And it's a criminal organized crime thing where you get random text saying, hey, how's it going?

And some people respond, and the person on the other end says, oh, I'm sorry, I must have the wrong text.

But then she, quote,

she sends you a picture and she's an attractive lady. So there's like steps to this. First,

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