Lisa, can you hear me?

Yes, I can. Hello, peers.

Lisa, great to talk to you. We're about to get this verdict.

How important is the verdict in this case?

I think it's very important. This is the most high-profile domestic violence case that any of us has ever seen.

And as somebody who represents many, many women in cases of sexual misconduct and abuse,

I know that my clients are all watching this very closely. They're hoping that Amber Hurd is going

to get justice. Do you think she should win Amber Hurd? Because I mean,, I'll give you my honest unfettered take on this.

I found both of them pretty repellent. I have to say, the more lurid the details that have come out,

it's almost like a stain on all their houses and on ours, frankly, for gorging over this stuff.

But do you believe that she's A, credible and that B, she's a genuine victim?

I do on both of those. I think she also had some abusive acts that she committed herself.

There's no question about it. But who was the one who was wealthier, physically stronger?

Sorry, I think we just lost you there, Lisa.

Keep going.

Okay.

Somebody was talking to me.

Sorry.

So I think he was the one who's more powerful, physically stronger, bigger, wealthier.

And when you look at some of his texts where he talks about wanting

to murder her and have sex with her dead body that shows you the kind of person he is, he's the one

that brought this case. He's the one that's responsible for both of them being in the courtroom,

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