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Twin Flames

Piecing Together | 7

Twin Flames

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In this special episode, Even The Rich’s Brooke Siffrinn looks at what the series can tell us about coercive groups today. She talks to Rachel Bernstein, a therapist who has spent over thirty years working with former cult members, and Cassius Adair, consultant on the show and specialist on queer and trans storytelling.



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0:00.0

Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Twin Flames, add free on Amazon music.

0:04.9

Download the app today.

0:07.0

From Wondery, this is a special bonus episode of Twin Flames.

0:17.7

As you can probably tell, I'm not Stephanie Beatrice.

0:21.0

I'm Brooke Sifrin, one of the hosts of Even the Rich.

0:24.6

It's a series where we pull back the curtain on the stories of some of the most powerful

0:28.5

and successful figures in society.

0:31.2

Now I am so fascinated by cults and I've actually been reading a lot about Twin Flames

0:36.4

in the last couple of years, so when I heard about this story, I was immediately all-in.

0:43.1

In some ways, the story of Twin Flames is a universal one.

0:47.1

True love, the pursuit of a happy ever after.

0:50.6

Those are things we can all relate to.

0:52.7

He was the first person that made me feel like, yeah, you're screwed up, but who isn't?

0:58.4

And I still like you.

0:59.9

Yet there were other parts of the story that were more difficult to wrap my head around.

1:04.4

Like how drastically people's lives can change even over the internet.

1:09.3

I no longer knew who I was.

1:12.6

I was just like I was spiraling.

1:17.3

So what does this story tell us about how power and coercion are adapting in our modern

1:22.0

world?

1:23.0

And the lengths people are going to get what they want.

1:26.3

Well, I've got two special guests who've really thought a lot about these questions.

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