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The Dig

Pie Down Here w/ Robin D.G. Kelley

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Featuring Robin D.G. Kelley listening back and reflecting upon old tapes of the interviews with sharecroppers he conducted in the 1980s while researching Hammer and Hoe: Alabama Communists during the Great Depression. This is an episode of Signal Hill, a new audio magazine made by friends of The Dig. Produced by Conor Gillies and edited by Liza Yeager and Omar Etman.

Listen to Dan's Dig interview with Robin Kelley on Hammer and Hoe thedigradio.com/podcast/hammer-and-hoe-with-robin-d-g-kelley

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0:00.0

This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com

0:05.3

and by Haymarket Books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners like you.

0:13.6

One that you might like is No Cop City, No Cop World, Lessons from the Movement, edited by Camus Franklin, Micah Herskin, and Mariah Parker.

0:24.0

Featuring the voices of forest defenders, environmental justice advocates, political prisoners,

0:30.6

indigenous activists, abolitionists, educators, and scholars. This expansive collection connects

0:37.1

movements for environmental justice,

0:39.4

police abolition, and indigenous sovereignty. The book highlights the strategy, tactics,

0:45.7

and ideologies that transformed a local collective action into a powerful international movement

0:52.2

to Stop Cop City. As Maryam Kappa puts it,

0:56.3

the lessons from Stop Cop City should inform our current organizing efforts everywhere.

1:01.9

The book underscores that criminalization is the indispensable fuel of fascism.

1:08.4

It's timely, necessary, and required reading. Find No Cop City, No Cop World at Haymarket

1:15.8

books.org, where all paperback books are 20% off every day. Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin magazine.

1:34.1

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:39.8

This week, I want to tell you about a new audio project cooked up by some friends of the dig.

1:45.7

It's called Signal Hill, and it's basically a magazine for audio stories.

1:51.8

Imagine picking up a copy of your favorite small literary magazine, like N Plus One, and pressing

1:58.2

play.

1:59.4

In their first issue, released in February, there are eight

2:03.1

original documentaries by eight different contributors in a wide range of styles and about all kinds

2:09.4

of things, kites and caterpillars, magical realism and rural land wars, movement histories, and family group chats.

2:19.1

Each story is diligently reported, beautifully written, and artfully crafted with original

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