Pidgeon Pagonis' memoir 'Nobody Needs to Know' reclaims intersex identity
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🗓️ 24 August 2023
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Linda Holmes. Welcome to NPR's Book of the Day. Pigeon Pogonis only began to understand the story of their own birth when they were in college. They had been raised as a girl, but as they heard a professor talk about intersex people, they began to have questions about their own body, their own identity, and even surgeries that they'd had that were never |
| 0:21.8 | truthfully explained. They tell NPR's Lela Faddle what these moments of discovery were like. |
| 0:28.5 | And they say that after having told the story in their new memoir, nobody needs to know, |
| 0:33.7 | they're ready to stop telling it. They're ready to put their energy elsewhere into advocacy, |
| 0:39.2 | into living as what they call a light at the end of the tunnel for other intersex people. |
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| 1:24.1 | Pigeon Pogonis never liked their birth name, Jennifer, so they became pigeon. |
| 1:28.3 | They felt an affinity to the birds when one snuck onto the same bus as them. |
| 1:32.3 | It just made me happy the way that it was bobbing up and down the aisle. |
| 1:36.3 | And I just found joy in that. |
| 1:39.3 | Pagonis is intersex, but was never told this by their parents. |
| 1:43.3 | Growing up, they felt like they didn't belong. Like, pigeons don't belong in cities. Pogonis is intersex, but was never told this by their parents. |
| 1:46.0 | Growing up, they felt like they didn't belong. |
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