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As a world-renowned theoretical physicist,

Lawrence Kraus has proposed groundbreaking theories

about the energy density of space, relativistic quantum

fields, and the origins of the universe itself. But he's always had a political side too. While at Case Western University he led the initiative for a no

confidence vote against the school's president and he helped lead the pushback

against theories of so-called intelligent design. This week he got political again with an article in Quilett entitled,

Racism is real, but science isn't the problem.

In which he takes a dim view to the June 10th strike for black lives event supported by the American Physical

Society and other science groups.

In his article, he argues that while American society is full of inequities, science offers a haven from bigotry and

shouldn't be used as just another arena for progressive cancel culture.

Lawrence Kraus currently serves as president of the Origins Project Foundation and as host of the origins

podcast. He joined me by Skype this week from Oregon. Here are excerpts from our

conversation. You write in your article that science unites humanity in a way that is

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