Phyllis Bennis on debating John Bolton & listening to (certain) Syrian voices

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🗓️ 30 March 2018

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Bonus: the rest of my Phyllis interview https://www.patreon.com/posts/17870986 Phyllis Bennis, of the Institute for Policy Studies talks about debating John Bolton, that time he helped the Iraq War happen, the undeserved rehabilitation of George Bush, and the problem with the way people talk about Syria. Quote of the ep: "There are Syrians who are calling for US intervention just as there were some Libyans who were calling for NATO intervention. The problem is, they were wrong. And the fact that they were Libyans, the fact that there are currently Syrians saying it, that doesn't make it right. When people say we have to lift up Syrian voices, that's absolutely true. But Syria is a country of 24 million people. The Syrian voice doesn't exist. There are many Syrian voices. We need to hear Syrian voices but if the solution is just we need a Syrian voice to say what I believe, that's not the answer."

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Katie Helper Show. You can hear the Katie Helper Show
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0:20.6	That's Patreon.com slash the Katie Halper Show again patreon.com slash the Katie helper show.
0:25.0	On today's episode, I speak to Phyllis Benis.
0:29.0	Phyllis Benis directs the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies, and she works on the Middle East and UN issues.
0:40.0	So thanks so much for joining me on the show.
0:43.2	Great to be with you.
0:44.3	You have a piece in the nation called Why We Need to Remember the Iraq War
0:49.3	as well as the global resistance to it.
0:52.2	And I want to talk to you about some other developments
0:55.2	that have happened since you wrote that piece.
0:57.4	But first, can you go over what the takeaways are
1:00.3	from not only the Iraq war, but from, as as you call it the global resistance to it?
1:04.8	Well I think the takeaways from the war are pretty well known the fact that the
1:11.8	U.S. years of sanctions devastated the Iraqi population
1:15.8	the war wiped out thousands and thousands of people destroyed cities
1:21.4	destroyed a country.
1:24.0	I do know that a lot of innocent people have died and that troubles me and it grieves
1:29.0	me.
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