Phwoar, Peter the Great? I should say so! (with Philippa Perry)
Off Air with Jane & Fi
The Times
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to Tuesday's episode of the podcast - it's been carefully considered at every level. Jane and Fi also thoughtfully consider garden gnomes, domesticated foxes, goose chases, and royal wig swaps.
Plus, psychotherapist and writer Philippa Perry discusses her new book ‘Shrink Solves Murder’.
Recommendations in today's podcast: 'The Things We Never Say' by Elizabeth Strout and the TV show Amandaland
Our next book club pick will be a collection of short stories! 'Interpreter of Maladies' is by Jhumpa Lahiri.
You can check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@OffAirWithJaneAndF
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Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.
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Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler
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| 0:00.0 | Crashing around. |
| 0:09.2 | Welcome to Tuesday's edition of Off Air with Jane and Phie. |
| 0:13.6 | I've got my minty, clean breath, thingy, my jiggy watsits. |
| 0:18.2 | And I'm a week out from the dentist. |
| 0:22.4 | Do you get to that stage where you just think, |
| 0:28.3 | I just want to be super careful about my mouth hygiene? I actively like my dentist so much and I got a, I had to book a check-in and I'm genuinely looking forward to it. It gets that age where |
| 0:34.0 | you realise that there are some people who know you can depend on in life. And it's good to have the dentist in that. Yes, absolutely. But these ones are quite funny. They're the little clean breath peppermint things, and they guarantee to last two hours. And I wonder whether if you eat two of them the last four. Well, I would have been based on science. They're bound to, aren't they? Yeah. I did that embarrassing thing where I bumped into a neighbour of mine at London Bridge Station today. It's always so bizarre. You know, we'd bump into people out of... You shouldn't bump out. Bump in. Especially not at the station. Bump into people, but in the wrong environment. And then you can't always remember their name. Yes, exactly that. But I'd just taken on board a minty thing and I was so surprised to see him. As I said hello, it fell out. Okay. But you kept your dignity. Well, I think he's just a very polite gentleman, so he didn't draw attention to it. |
| 1:28.7 | We both pretended that. |
| 1:30.5 | Hello, what's fallen out of your mouth? |
| 1:34.4 | Not the easiest conversation starter, is it? |
| 1:36.7 | No, it's not. |
| 1:37.9 | Right, lots of stuff are coming in from a Chelsea Flower Show. |
| 1:41.7 | Have you seen, lots of celebrities? |
| 1:43.4 | They obviously have a little timetable of celebrity visits to the Chelsea Flower Show. Oh, seen, lots of celebrities. They obviously have a little timetable of celebrity visits to the Chelsea Flower Show. Oh God, very much so. Yeah, I think it was Division I, we're going out yesterday, but they all had to be photographed holding a garden gnome. I don't know what that was all about really. Well, it's because for the first time ever, Chelsea has always had a ban on garden nos. Oh, has it? It has, right. |
| 2:02.1 | And it very much, it says something about the Chelsea Flash show, doesn't it? |
| 2:08.0 | But they have relaxed that rule this year. |
| 2:12.3 | And I think it's to do with a charity garden, isn't it? |
| 2:16.5 | But, you know, of course they're getting an awful lot of publicity with... |
| 2:20.3 | Name some Ailer celebrities who've been holding gnomes. |
| 2:24.3 | Alan Titchmarsh. |
| 2:25.6 | Yep. |
| 2:26.0 | Mary Berry. |
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