If you can really listen to your tools, right? If you really pay attention, they will tell you if they're in good shape or not. They will give you feedback and in the plane that might be a slightly different vibration. When I'm winding winding a watch it might be that I can feel just a little catch that didn't used to be there from

like it to my airplane to my favorite watches all these things are gonna outlive me and so I'm just a custodian of these fantastically engineered mechanical

devices and I want to be the best custodian that I can possibly be. Oh, Hey everybody I'm your host Stephen Pulverin and this is Hodinky Radio.

This week we've got an awesome double-headed for you.

I'm super excited about it.

Up first is my conversation with photographer and pilot Evan Robinson, who you might remember

from the Pilates Journey video series we created with

IWC back in 2019. While Evan's day job is creating incredible photographs and films for a wide variety

of brands and clients, he's a passionate aviator who also always and makes him an even better fit for this show and someone I'm always happy to connect with.

We get into how he became a pilot, by the toughest flying often results in the best photos, and

how the definition of a tool watch might need to be expanded a little bit. After that, Kara joins me to discuss

the column she recently wrote for the site, arguing that all watches should be

unisex. It elicited a ton of feedback from the Hodinke community, from other folks in the watch media, and from the industry itself.

And we address a lot of those questions and issues directly.

If you're interested in watches in any capacity, this is really important stuff, and I appreciate Carr coming on the show to give us a more in-depth look at our column and where we can go from here.

So without further ado, let's do this. Hey man, how's it going to get it?

Hey man, how's it going?

It's going well.

Glad we're finally getting to catch up especially now that you've

been West Coast for a little while it's overdue. I know it is it's it's it's crazy we're

like not that far from each other but COVID reality is that that doesn't matter

much right?

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