Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend, a podcast for long distance festies everywhere.

I'm Amina Tussaud and I'm Anne Friedman.

And I'm producer Gina Delvack. On this week's agenda, a phone-of-friend episode between Amina

and Buzzfeed Tech writer Natasha Ticco, they discuss how Natasha writes so incisively about touchy

tech founders without hurting their feelings too badly, the typical spin tactics of Silicon Valley,

and the app's TV shows and Instagram accounts that they both love right now.

Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend Natasha Ticco.

Thanks for having me.

I'm super excited to have you on the show because you're like, what are my earliest like SF bodies?

I know.

Ah, okay, tell me everything. What do you do in Natasha?

I am a writer for Buzzfeed's tech bureau in San Francisco and I focus on Silicon Valley,

the intersection of tech and culture, which is increasingly crowded these days.

And I kind of just dig into whatever I think warrants closer look.

I love that you said that it's really crowded because that's true, but I like, you know,

it's like let the record reflect that over the years, you are one of a few people that makes like

tech writing not seem boring and also does it really honestly.

It's really hard. I mean, you see this with like a lot of the reporters in our bureau are from

New York and there's this sense that the San Francisco reporters are sort of a little bit more

chummy close to some of their sources and some of the people here in the New York people are

coming in and they're, but they're coming in with a lack of knowledge and just kind of, you know,

maybe some ideas about how tech people function. And so you're constantly trying to calibrate for like

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