Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend! A podcast for long distance festies everywhere.

I'm Amina Tussaud. And I'm Anne Friedman. And every other week we bring you a special phone

a friend episode where either Amina or I call one of our accomplished and impressive festies

to talk to them about what they've been up to. And this week I talk to friend of the podcast Jorge

Reves. So exciting. What's Jorge up to? Well Jorge is a reporter for Fusion who is on the justice

beat. He writes a lot about immigration. He writes a lot about detention and criminal justice.

And one thing I love about his work is like he is really good at finding actual human beings who

are invested in these issues like capital I that we all think of as like big political flashpoints.

Like he really finds humans and talks to them. A real quick note before we get started.

If you live in Los Angeles or you like visiting Los Angeles which that's everybody, you should

join us for a very special live show at the A theater downtown on a Thursday August 18th.

We'll have many many many special guests including Steph Beatrice, the genius behind the Instagram

account official Sean Penn and our friends from who weekly and we'll keep announcing more guests

as the show date gets closer. But see you in LA August 18th at the A theater downtown. You can find

information to buy your tickets at call your girlfriend.com.

Well Jorge just got back from the RNC and we also talked a little bit about the Democratic

Convention which is happening this week. We did not get the chance to talk about Michelle's speech.

Uh full body goosebumps.

It really that's kind of how it felt it was like exhale like we're in good hands. Like when she

was speaking I was like oh my god I don't feel that tension that I felt through the entire RNC

with like every clip I watched. Also can we here's one thing I will say about the RNC.

The one the one thing that I was very surprised by. Ivanka's dad just doesn't have the juice with

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