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I could have chosen, you know, a career that didn't make money. I could have focused on whatever,

you know, was my passion and my family would have supported me as long as I was working. Now, do I feel pressure to prove myself?

Yes, 100%. But I actually think that that's a really, really positive thing.

I'm Carly Zakin. And I'm Danielle Weissberg. Welcome to 9 to 5-ish with the skin.

We've run into so many questions over the years and had so many moments where we needed advice,

and we got it from women who'd been there.

And that's what we're bringing you at this show.

Each week, we're helping you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders we know.

Because we know your

work life is a lot more than nine to five. All right, let's get into it.

Hi, everyone. Today's guest is Phoebe Gates. She's the co-founder of the fashion tech startup Fia

and co-host of the Burnouts Podcast on the Unwell Network.

Phoebe grew up in Seattle as the daughter of two people you might have heard of, Bill Gates

and Melinda French Gates, but Phoebe has steadily carved out her own path in entrepreneurship.

She attended Stanford University where she met her roommate, turned best friend, turned co-founder, Sophia Keani.

They quickly bonded over fashion and the challenge of shopping sustainably without wasting time or money.

So while in school, Phoebe and Sophia started building what would become FIA, which officially launched earlier this year.

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