Phoebe Bridgers Looks Back on Making 'Punisher.' Plus: Her Musical Heroes, Her Songwriting Process and Much More

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4 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Phoebe Bridgers goes song-by-song on 'Punisher,' goes deep on her songwriting process and musical heroes, talks about her friendship with Conor Oberst, and much more in this new edit of her interview with host Brian Hiatt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey I'm Brian Hyatt and this is Rolling Stone Music Now.
0:05.0	Today I have a brand new edit of my really excellent interview with Phoebe Bridgers.
0:11.0	Phoebe is bigger than ever right now and in this interview she talks
0:14.7	about her whole career about making what's still her most recent album Punisher and a whole
0:19.8	lot more. Let's jump straight into that interview. The speed kicks in.
0:30.0	The funny thing is your album is called Punisher because you're playing on a term about people who gush too much at artists at the merch table and I think people have been doing that to you in interviews and I'm the latest. So sorry about that.
0:43.2	But tell me about that term for people who don't know it.
0:47.9	Yeah, well, in the simplest terms, I think a Punisher is just somebody who
0:51.7	doesn't know that they're being perceived as
0:54.4	exhausting. Like one time I was cornered at a party I could literally see my
0:59.5	friends in the background but this person I haven't seen since I was like a teenager
1:03.8	cornered me to talk about if Verizon or AT&T was better and talking about her
1:09.3	own personal experience like I wasn't involved in the conversation at all. I think that's key. I love gushy fans. I look out in the crowd and it's predominantly queer, young, fem kids. They'll be like, I made you a friendship bracelet.
1:25.0	That is not what I'm talking about. That is awesome. What I'm talking about is like,
1:30.0	oh, there's also a fan-splainer, which is one of my favorites,
1:33.1	because it'll be like, you're playing in Florida,
1:35.2	and they say, they come up to you and they're like,
1:37.8	I was gonna buy tickets for Kalamazoo,
1:40.9	because I was gonna be there. But then I bought tickets for here and I actually saw you last
1:46.7	night on the TV when you played Seth Myers and now I'm at this show and the sound wasn't that great, but, and it makes me wonder if I should have gone to Kalamazoo,
1:58.0	like they're just not, they're like kind of insulting you the whole time, and they're just taking you through their personal experience with you.
2:04.9	Like you're not you don't have any new information whatsoever. That's great. The other thing is you write about
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