This is Philosophy versus Improv, where two sages try to teach each other a thing or two,

and maybe you, the audience, gets something out of it as well.

I'm Mark Lintonmeyer, taking you through the magical world of philosophy today.

And I am Bill Arnett, standing behind and encouraging you to walk through the world that is improv.

But I have a helper.

I have a guide.

I have a guru.

I have a shaman that I have brought today.

Please introduce yourself, David.

Hi, I'm David Pena-Uzman, and I am neither a comedian nor really that much of a philosopher.

So I fall somewhere in the middle here. So,

hello to both of you. Okay. We're just inviting regular people on. Is that what's happening now,

Mark? I mean, you teach in a professional setting. Am I wrong about that? No, you're right. I am

an academic. Oh, okay. Okay.

I am a philosopher, so we should say that clearly.

The comedic element is missing.

There's the am I a philosopher, and are you really a philosopher?

That's right. You know, if you ask somebody that question, that's when the knives come out

and the profession turns into a blood sport.

I found that the professional philosopher association means that, yes, people who belong to that,

identify as philosophers. People like me who do a lot of philosophy, have philosophy training.

Well, I'm not writing. My one book was very much a secondary source in the philosophy area. So am I a philosopher just because I think about philosophy a lot? Or am I just a philosophy fan? Like, I don't have to actually deal with that. But the fact that you have this, you know, on you have you have your CV, you have your professional presentation,

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