I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

And welcome to another episode of a car ourselves podcast.

Today we have somebody who you all probably know because you retweet his tweets often. only that but you share them in your group

chats you were probably the most familiar person in everybody's group chats but

none other than Phil Lewis. How you feeling today?

I'm great. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. I think what a lot of people actually don't know is that I'm a big fan of the rink.

So this is really fun to be on it.

It's really cool.

Yeah, now I shout out to Bill Simmons and everybody else at the

Ringer, so giving me this opportunity and I'll make sure that Bill gets you on next

and we share this so we get the exposure get you the true

bring your family network so look I start each one of my shows by having my

guests walk us through the arc of their careers and talk us through each one of your career stops since finishing up Jamil Hill University, I mean

Michigan State. Talk to me about that.

Yeah, Michigan State, right.

So I, you know, it's really funny.

I didn't, I didn't major in journalism.

I had never participated in a journalism class before I even got into this field.

I actually majored in sociology and when I left Michigan State I was a teacher for a bit.

I was a teacher. a teacher. I was a teacher.

But my time at Michigan State really,

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