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Hello, everybody. Welcome to a three-point perspective,

the podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art.

I'm Jake Parker. I'm Lee White.

And today we've got a special treat for you guys.

We interviewed Philip and Aaron Stead, the husband-wife illustration team,

illustration children's book writer team, who probably best known for a sick day for Amos McGee, which was a 2000, book came out in

2010 and won the Caldecott for it that year. Guys, this was just a really delightful

conversation. Lee, do you have any takeaways from this that you, that you're,

you know, that you can't stop thinking about from talking to these guys? Yeah, I think, I think the

big sort of overriding takeaway is sort of trust your vision and, and follow through with it,

keep pushing on it, you know, and get something that you're happy with.

And that's what they've seemed to have done the whole time.

And, you know, it's easy to sort of listen to their story as our listeners will hear and think,

oh, they got lucky.

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