Joining us on this edition of Geopolitics and Empire is Phil Wiseman of Oracle Films.

He's been directing amazing anti-globalist content for years and the latest film is The Agenda,

Their Vision, Your Future. It's a must-see ex-poise on The Algorithm get a Great Reset,

Takeover and Something You must share with friends and

families the link is in the description uh the website is the agenda film that com you can actually

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to the podcast phil thank you high. Hi, praise. Coming from you.

Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks. It's funny. I think before we hit record, you said that you first came

across geopolitics and empire with my David Hughes interview, and that had been the first time

you'd seen, David, yeah? Yeah, both of you. So, you know, I'm ashamed to say I've been done a lot of backtracking and done a lot of homework since on your output. But that was my first exposure to David Hughes. And I just thought, and funny enough, that came about because we'd approached Catherine to be in the film. And she said, yeah, I'm happy to do it. But by the way, if you're in the UK, you need to speak to this guy. So then our research began and we found you both. And I mean, David was fantastic. It's great guy. And funny story with Catherine. I think it was like three years ago is coming back from home, from Croatia home to Mexico home. And it was like 6 a.m. in the morning. And I was in Mexico City. It's like 5 a.m. we're boarding the flight somewhere in Mexico. And Catherine Austin Fitz was on my flight. Just by coincidence. Yeah. And I said, you know, I'm not going to bugger. It's 5 a.m. We're boarding. I said, maybe I'll catch her at the baggage claim. And I did. And we chatted it for like two minutes before she had to go off. And then I've been on subsequently with her on these independent media alliance panels that we do every month or so. But Oracle films, I've been following your stuff for years.

You guys do fantastic work.

And if you want to tell us a bit about how Oracle films,

how you sort of got into this space.

Sure.

Well, not by accident, but prior to 2020,

a friend of mine called Liam and myself, we were just working as freelance

camera operators and editors, so not doing anything remotely controversial, dipping our toe

in alternative media landscape in terms of what we were listening to and watching.

And then when COVID happened, it's like, okay, been quite largely apathetic towards

geopolitics and politics in general up until that point.

But if you weren't paying attention during what happened to COVID, it's like, okay,

if not now, then when?

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