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Toucher & Hardy

Phil Perry In-Studio with Toucher & Hardy | The Stack - 10/2 (Hour 4)

Toucher & Hardy

Beasley Media Group

Sports

4.3735 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

(00:00) Phil Perry covers the New England Patriots on NBC Sports Boston and joins the show.

(17:06) The guys continue to preview Patriots-Bills. Can New England shock Buffalo??

(35:03) It's that time where we get to all the stories and topics we didn’t cover during the show—it's The Stack!


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0:00.0

Oh boy. I guess it's time for more Toucher and Hardy on 985 The Sports Lab.

0:08.4

Phil Perry. He's on TV all the time. He works for NBC Sports Boston. He covers the Patriots. Hello, Phil.

0:15.3

Good morning, boys. How are we doing? Good morning. And it was a little trip back in time for you last weekend on Sunday with that game, right?

0:24.4

It's a nice old-fashioned blowout.

0:26.2

It felt that way.

0:27.2

Yeah, that's what good teams usually do to bad teams.

0:30.1

And I don't think we can call the Patriots a good team yet.

0:33.2

But that kind of game, I think, makes you wonder if they're at least on the path to good.

0:39.0

So there's there's something in sports and I don't think it applies to football as much as it does to other things.

0:45.1

But there is a philosophy where if you're trying to emulate something, you physically go out there and do it.

0:53.3

Like if you're trying to be Roger Federer, it's like, what do you want? I want to serve like him. Well, what does he do? Well, he throws it up really high and stretches at the top. And all of a sudden, you're kind of doing it. And if you're, if you want to emulate a good team, whether it's from the coaching side or the execution side, well, what would a good team here do? well, what they would do is they would, you know, just look for the open receiver.

1:14.3

Remember how, you know, Montana used to do that or Brady used to do that.

1:18.7

So if you start adapting that philosophy, yeah, maybe you're not a good team, but you start

1:23.8

to believe that you could be because, well, if I can act like it in certain situations

1:29.0

and we can coach like it in certain situations, maybe we'll actually become good.

1:34.9

And there are things that they're doing in these two wins especially that to me aren't

1:41.2

impossible for them to do on a relatively regular basis.

1:44.6

Like one is, just don't shoot yourself on the foot a half dozen times with turnovers.

1:51.8

Yes.

1:52.9

Run the football.

1:54.0

And you don't even have to run it like you are the greatest rushing attack of all time.

1:59.6

You have to run it relatively efficiently. Can you get to four yards per carry? Because the two games, they've been able to do that. They've been able to keep Drake May's pass attempts really low. They were able to give them the whole fourth quarter off the other day. But in Miami, 20-something attempts, last week, in the teens, both weeks, they're able to run the ball relatively efficiently. They weren't world beaters, but they're running backs carried for over four yards per carry. That's the only two times they've been able to do it this year. Can you do that on a regular basis? Can you not turn it over? Like, it's going out of style on a regular basis? If you can do those two things, they are good enough to win a chunk of games this year.

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