Phil Mudd on CIA and Enhanced Interrogations
The Lawfare Podcast
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4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2019
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Philip Mudd is currently a counterterrorism and national security analyst with CNN, but before that, Mudd spent 25 years working at the Central Intelligence Agency, on the NSC staff, and eventually at the FBI. His third book is "Black Site: The CIA in the Post-9/11 World." David Priess sat down with Phil to talk about his career at CIA, the book, his research into the advanced interrogations and the interrogation program at CIA after 9/11, and the ethics of it all.
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