Welcome back to Caffado Cast everyone it is bright and early on a Wednesday AM Frank and I are getting ready to head down to Alabama for a white tail hunt.

So to get Frank prepped for the compound archery journey we have brought in the great Phil Mendoza of no limits archery Phil and I have been long time friends.

Phil is a trained to hunt champion you run alpha bow hunting own no limits killed a ton of stuff and an all around great guy is the bow hunting cholo.

Yeah and the bow hunting cholo legend legendary so to keep Frank from shooting anything in the ass we brought in Phil.

So thanks for coming Phil.

Hey man I appreciate the intro and the welcome I don't know that I can keep Frank from shooting the ass but we're going to try.

You got to have a signature shot.

Are you a serial killer man what are you talking about you got to go for that for moral man.

Yeah well the last time I'm not sure what we were talking about but he said something about at least you can only get ziplis once.

I don't know where that came out of the slap my trademark term now.

Yeah people at the show were like dude you can only get ziplis once I'm like don't live by that advice.

I'm just going to trust that well I was so I'm finding out just getting feedback from from users since we're such a tight knit unit that there's a lot of inside jokes and so it seems can seem clickish on this podcast because whether it be from past friends we've had that have irritated us and we'll start to tell us side joke and then we'll stop or my hatred for a couple companies or some inside joke.

That Frank has was a cougar.

People don't listen right or the people don't understand that are listening so I'm going to do a better job John pinch mentioned this to me from one of his friends last night that I we have to explain ourselves which will probably get us in deep trouble so since who knows what will happen on this one's fill and I've.

Many experiences in life and archery that there may be some side jokes on this one will try to explain if that pops up but some you might not want to explain well that's what I told John I'm like dude you know the like John goes I know you so I know exactly what you're talking about and I'm like do a you do you really think you want me to explain that story so anyway but so feel you got a lot going on and I don't think.

You know some well some people know live around here but you own or is your dad on that or do you is a family thing I'm part on what's it's a family business that we only do demo and excavating and that's kind of the nine to five if you will right but the the archery shop started we open in 2009 and I still maintain the full time gig with my dad is it's been a.

If a family thing I mean I've grown up in that business and since the archery shops grown it's it's definitely been a challenge because.

That whole work life balance stuff doesn't exist I remember well I'm a sheep hunt specifically I think your wife was giving you the business you are way behind and work and we're struggling to get the shop open the shop open yeah you're having problems with stupid permits yeah it was an I called you nice.

I might turn this tag in and use it don't do it we're going hunting and we're going to be fine and and and it worked out great it was still probably one of my most memorable hunts I've been on but yes I was I was banging my head against the wall daily yeah no I yeah I remember yeah trying to do all of that at one time which you keep throwing rocks in the rucksack you you've got all kind you've got a lot of informational stuff coming out now which is huge for me because then I don't have to answer that.

I can send them to you for technical archery bow hunting and you know what you and I have done some seminars with other people but you're getting it up basically like a Bible or a full on a disease section on you to wear videos are on your site or well you know where people can you know

it's a great example you know she's going to all of them so she can learn everything from tuning the bow serving or whatever so how's that going is it taking off no it's going really well we've so last you we dabbled with some bow tuning seminars in the shop and it was kind of introductory and then taking it into the

the application portion where you're learning some not learning some how how stuff work in the press and we sold out a couple seminars and I just you know too many things going on kind of let it let it go so this year we decided to make it a priority and we've been

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