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The Politics Guys

PG138: Gun Laws, North Korea Sanctions, PA Gerrymandering, Mueller Charges

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The show opens with Mike and Jay discussing the aftermath of the tragic shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida. Mike takes issue with the inflammatory rhetoric of NRA head Wayne LaPierre, and while Jay agrees, he points out that there are those on the left who are equally inflammatory. In terms of policy proposals, Mike points out how rare schools shootings are, the difficulty in making them even more rare, and the almost certain unintended consequences of any such effort. Jay agrees, though seems less skeptical of proposals to arm teachers than Mike clearly is. Next, the Guys discuss the latest round of U.S. sanctions against North Korea. They both agree that North Korea has taken advantage of previous administrations - of both parties - with Jay arguing that this sort of tough approach is called for, given that history. Mike appreciates the logic, but is concerned about possible consequences if the U.S. backs North Korea into a corner with no way out.  Then it's more on gerrymandering, in the wake of Pennsylvania's Democratic-majority supreme court drawing a Congressional map for the state after the Republican-controlled legislature and Democratic governor couldn't agree on their own map. While Mike and Jay believe that courts shouldn't draw Congressional maps, Mike believes it's an unfortunate last option when a court finds legislative maps to be in violation of a constitution (whether it's a state or the federal constitution).  Finally, Mike and Kay discuss the new indictments against former Trump campaign operatives Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. Jay doesn't see the link between these charges and collusion with the Russians in the 2018 elections, and while Mike agrees, he points out that these investigations typically take years, and that Mueller is likely building a case.  **What Jay's Watching: ** [**** The Times of Harvey Milk](http://bit.ly/2EQpPQA)   **What Mike's Reading:** [Who Needs Congressional Districts](http://nyti.ms/2EOu675)?   **[Here's the link to take the Stony Brook survey](http://bit.ly/2EM5k7n)** on the messages that political parties send to their members. (The researchers request that you don't post about the survey so as to not influence others who haven't yet taken it.)    **Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible.** If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to [politicsguys.com/support](http://www.politicsguys.com/support).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the politics guys. I'm Michael Baranowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University.

0:30.1

Before we get started with today's show, we want to thank everyone who took the Politics Guys listener survey.

0:37.2

There were a bunch of you, and we haven't quite gotten around to coelating and analyzing all the results yet, but that's going to happen, and it will

0:38.1

definitely help us expand and improve the show. So thanks very much for that. And speaking of surveys,

0:45.5

a team of researchers from Stony Brook University have asked us to help them study the messages

0:50.6

that political parties send to their members. The survey is confidential, and it only

0:55.0

takes a few minutes to finish. Now, the link is one of these really long things, but I will post

0:59.8

it in the show notes. So if you'd be willing to do that, that would be great, help the advancement

1:04.3

of science, political science, that sort of thing, you know. Also, they asked if you do take the

1:09.4

survey that you not post about it in the

1:11.1

comments section of our Facebook discussion so you don't, you know, influence other people

1:14.7

who haven't taken it. Thanks very much. All right. So we start today's show with the story

1:20.2

that's dominated the news all week, the aftermath of the tragic shooting at Marjorie Ston

1:25.6

Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

1:28.4

You know, what some argue makes this different from other school shootings, far too many of them,

1:33.6

is that a lot of the students have organized politically, hoping to put pressure on state government in Florida,

1:39.6

which, by the way, has some of the most permissive gun laws in the country.

1:43.4

In 2017, for instance,

1:45.4

guns and ammo ranked at the 12th best state for gun owners. And they're also hoping to pressure

1:50.6

the federal government to take the sort of significant action that hasn't been taken after

1:56.4

so many other these school shootings. And while President Trump posted a listening session with

2:02.0

a number of students, some conservative commentators were actually wondering whether the students

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