Hi, everybody. Welcome to the librarian is in the New York Public Library's podcast about books, culture, and what to read next. I'm Gwen. I'm Frank.

And today we are super excited to bring you our episode with the guys from Overdue, Craig and Andrew.

When Frank and I were in Philadelphia last month, we recorded this with them at Craig's

kitchen table.

It was awesome.

His wife was super nice.

Oh, they were very nice.

They were so, yeah, they welcomed us into their home, and we ate pizza and talked about

Peyton Place.

And Frank chose Peyton Place.

I did.

I mean, well, because Overdue Craig and Andrew do books, as you could get from the title

on their podcast, overdue.

Books they should have read or books one should have read or books you might have read

in high school and should revisit.

So books like that are overdue to be read again or to read for the, to be read

for the first time.

And so they had some ideas.

And I was, someone actually in my book discussion group at Jefferson Market had suggested this title,

Peyton Place.

And I was like, that's perfect because it could be fun.

I was about to go away to Mexico.

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