Peter Zeihan | Disunited Nations: The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World
Hidden Forces
Demetri Kofinas
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 2 March 2020
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 124 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Peter Zeihan, a geopolitical strategist who combines an expert understanding of demography, economics, energy, politics, technology, and security to help his clients prepare for an uncertain future. Before founding his own strategy firm, Peter helped develop the analytical models for Stratfor, one of the world's premier private intelligence companies. He's also a critically-acclaimed author whose first two books — The Accidental Superpower and The Absent Superpower — have been recommended by Mitt Romney, Fareed Zakaria and Ian Bremmer. His latest book, "Disunited Nations: The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World," hits bookstores tomorrow.
This is one of the most educational conversations that we have ever recorded on Hidden Forces. The episode is meant to provide you with a comprehensive overview of Peter Zeihan's work and outlook on the subjects of foreign affairs, economics, and geopolitics. The goal is to help you understand just how abnormal our world has been for the last 70 years and what a return to a more "normal world" is going to look like. America's withdrawal from the world has consequences for governments, business people, retirees, and especially for anyone who is living or invested in countries that have been the primary beneficiaries of the American lead international Order of the past three generations.
In the first hour, Peter lays the foundation for what this new world is going to look like, how it differs from the world we've inhabited since the end of World War Two, and what sorts of forces will be driving the changes that we can expect to experience over the next few decades. Towards the end of the episode we start to get into specific countries and regions, exploring the types of changes that we can expect to see economically, politically, geographically, and militarily in the not-too-distant future.
The future that Peter lays out is one of both risk and opportunity, and we explore many of these opportunities in the second half of this episode, including those dealing with Turkey, Argentina, and perhaps, most importantly, the United States and what Americans and their nation's regional partners can expect to experience in the scramble for security, resources, and power in the world to come.
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode of Hidden Forces is made possible by listeners like you. |
| 0:04.4 | For more information about this week's episode or for easy access to related programming |
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| 0:24.9 | amazing community. And with that, please enjoy this week's episode. And the What's up everybody? My guest today is Peter Zihan. |
| 0:52.8 | Peter is a geopolitical strategist who combines his expertise in demography, economics, energy, |
| 0:59.6 | politics, technology and security to help his clients prepare for an uncertain future. |
| 1:06.6 | Before founding his own strategy firm, Peter helped develop the analytical models for Stratford, one of the world's premier private |
| 1:14.3 | intelligence companies. He's also a critically acclaimed author whose first two books |
| 1:19.3 | The accidental superpower and the absent superpower have been recommended by |
| 1:24.8 | Mitt Romney Farid Zakaria and Ian Bremer and his third book disunited nations |
| 1:31.0 | the scramble for power in an ungoverned world hits bookstores tomorrow. |
| 1:37.6 | This is one of the best conversations I've had on this program. Just from an educational standpoint it was phenomenal. |
| 1:46.7 | Peter's book is one of the most informative and engaging of any I've read in the three years of doing this podcast. It was so comprehensive |
| 1:58.1 | that my biggest concern was how to structure it in a way where all of you could get the most out of the two hours we spent together. |
| 2:06.8 | And although there's no substitute for reading the book, and in case it isn't already obvious, |
| 2:11.6 | I highly recommend you read the book. |
| 2:14.7 | I do think this episode really nails it. |
| 2:19.6 | The first half is all about laying the foundation for what this world we're entering is going to look |
| 2:25.8 | like, how it differs from the world we've inhabited since the end of World War II, and what sorts |
| 2:31.9 | of forces are going to be driving the changes that we can expect |
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