And the Welcome back to conversations. Our guest today is Peter Teal, one of America's

leading investors and entrepreneurs and also as you'll see a very interesting thinker about American the

American economy American business American society American politics

Peter, thanks for being with us.

Thanks for having me on the show. My pleasure. Peter we met a little over 25 years ago. Peter,

we met what, a little over 25 years ago, I guess,

when you were at an undergraduate at Stanford, I think,

and you were active in politics and looking forward to going to law school.

And here you are, you're not a politician politician you're not a lawyer what what happened

well I'm still very interested in all all these sorts of questions but yeah

I probably started as a very conventionally tracked career,

Stanford undergrad, Stanford Law School,

worked in a big law firm in New York for a number

for a while, and then a big bank in New York,

and sort of had this rolling quarter life crisis where I finally concluded

that I should, that it made sense to try to do something where with your life where if you wouldn't do it it wouldn't happen versus these

tracked careers where you know if you don't do it there are a hundred other people who

will take your place to do the exact the exact same thing and in the the late 90s, I moved back to California,

got involved in the internet boom,

started a company called PayPal, four years later

was bought by eBay, and then since 2002 I've been sort of an investor helping people

get started with a number of different tech companies.

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