This is this pet peeve of mine.

We're not allowed to say that our side won the Cold War.

It just ended.

Well, let me point out one thing.

The United States is still here, and the Soviet Union went defunct.

We won.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show's Sunday special. We are pleased to welcome today, Peter Robinson.

He is the Murdoch Distinguished Policy Fellow at the Hoover Institute, and he knows like everything about Reagan and history and America.

Well, Peter, thanks so much for stopping by.

Ben, it's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. I'm an admirer, but I have three sons who are

Ben Shapiro fanatics. So it's a double pleasure. Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to have you on, and I'm glad that your sons will finally watch something that you produce. That's very, exactly. That's very exciting. So let's start with, you know, for folks who don't know your resume, your sort of most famous resume points

that you wrote down the tear down this wall speech

at the Berlin Wall for President Reagan.

So how exactly... know your resume, your sort of most famous resume points that you wrote down the tear down this

wall speech. That's right. At the Berlin Wall for President Reagan. So how exactly did you come up

with that phraseology? How did that speech come about? Oh, well, there's a, there's a story there.

1987, spring of 1987, Berlin is celebrating some 800th anniversary. Gorbachev is going to visit.

The Queen of England is going to visit.

And the West German government, remember, was West Germany and East Germany in those days.

The West German government asked President Reagan to make a visit.

I got to sign the speech and flew to Berlin before, this would be six weeks or so,

before the president was to speak there, to do some research.

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