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Fifth to the 9th of February at Mini Park Lane. Applicable on new mini orders placed during the sale event and registered by the 30th of June 26. Visit minnie.com.uk.com.com. Three minutes after ten is the time. A very good morning to you. We return inevitably to the Epstein story, the Epstein Files. but specifically, I think to start with, to Peter Mandelson,

although I find... inevitably to the Epstein story, the Epstein files. But specifically, I think to start with,

to Peter Mandelson, although I can be completely honest with you for a moment, I'm still really wrestling with the topics that we tackled yesterday. I'm really struggling to understand why

more people don't seem to be focusing and zoning in on, the maintenance of contact,

the resumption of warm relations after Epstein was jailed for soliciting a child for prostitution.

I know how, you know, PR rehab we had a brilliant call

yesterday didn't we from from the lady with experience in sort of international crisis management

and the tactics that you deploy to make sure that the world moves on. These are dark arts

the likes of which normal folk like like that you and me, will never really have need to call upon.

I don't know why, and I have to be careful what I say, because I don't want to get sued before lunch.

There was a case some years ago where the guilty got off, or one of them sort of got his punishment

massively reduced because he claimed he had dementia. And then some years later, he sort of

had it miraculously recovered. And he was very, very rich. And there is a sort of language,

isn't there? There's a vocabulary of great wealth.

I think Epstein was worth in excess of $500 million when he died. There's a vocabulary of great wealth

that the rest of us simply can't grasp, I think. We can't really get our head around. Here it is. He was

called Ernest Saunders and he was sentenced to five years imprisonment but was released after

10 months as he was believed to be suffering from Alzheimer's disease. He subsequently recovered.

I've got no more to say about the subject. I'm not going mad. That was in my mind. It was a big, a fraudulent attempt to manipulate the

share price of the Guinness company. And you kind of find yourself wondering whether,

what would you be like this? So look, Mandelson, I have to again be slightly careful what I say because I don't want to

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