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Peter Knights: The Next Pandemic Is On It's Way, Unless We Shut Down Wildlife Markets

Species Unite

elizabeth novogratz

Philosophy, Society & Culture

5.0911 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

There's not much that we can be certain about in such uncertain times but there are a few things. One is that unless we change the way that that we treat animals, the next pandemic is most definitely coming. Only next time, it could be much worse, much more infectious and even more fatal than the current crisis we're now facing. 

COVID-19 most likely started at a wild animal market in Wuhan, China and was transmitted to a human from an animal, probably a pangolin. Wild animal markets are breeding grounds for diseases - and in order to stop the transmission of the diseases to humans, we need to shut down the markets, end the global wildlife trade, and change the way that we treat animals across the board. 

If there's one upside coming from this pandemic  (I certainly hope there's more than one), it's that wild animal markets have shut down in China (at least they are closed right now) and hopefully, many other countries will soon follow suit. There's still much confusion surrounding the wild animal markets in China and elsewhere in terms of what's shut down and what hasn't. So, I asked Peter Knights the Executive Director of WildAid to explain.

Peter has been investigating and working to end illegal wildlife trafficking for the past thirty years. WildAid is different from other conservation organizations, because instead of focusing on fighting the supply side of the illegal wildlife trade, they work to reduce demand and to increase local support for conservation efforts. They've been a massive force in the reduction of the demand for ivory, rhino horn, shark fins, and much other illegal wildlife for decades. 

Their campaigns have changed the world. If you haven't seen them (although, you probably have and just didn't know it) take a look at their website. There are two incredible campaigns for pangolins on there, one with Jay Chou and the other with Jackie Chan

Peter and I spoke on Friday from our respective quarantines. He graciously explained the current situation with what's happening with wild animal markets across the planet. And, he shared what the future looks like if we don't put an end to these markets and the wild life trade. I hope you learn as much as I did. 

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the most likely source of new disease is going to be from another animal.

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We have no immunity to it, it's been in another animal that's transmitted.

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And so if we don't do anything about this, it's really a question of when, you know, the next thing happened. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novogratz. This is Species Unite. Today's conversation is with

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Peter Knights, the executive director of Wild Aid.

0:33.4

Peter has been investigating and working to end illegal wildlife trafficking for the past 30 years.

0:39.2

Wild Aid has been a massive force in the reduction of the demand for ivory, rhino horn, shark fins,

0:45.6

and much other illegal wildlife for decades. Wild dates different from other conservation

0:50.1

organizations because instead of focusing on fighting the supply side of the illegal

0:54.9

wildlife trade, they work to reduce the demand. We know that COVID-19 most likely

1:01.2

started at a wild animal market in Mujan China and it was transmitted to a human from an animal probably a pangolin

1:08.4

Wild animal markets are breeding grounds for diseases and in order to stop the transmission of the diseases to humans,

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we need to shut down the markets.

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And if there's one upside coming from this pandemic,

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and I certainly hope that there's more than one. It's that wild animal markets have shut down in China,

1:25.6

and hopefully many other countries will soon follow suit. There's still a lot of confusion surrounding

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the wild animal markets in China and elsewhere.

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So I asked Peter if he could explain. If you could just talk about a little bit about Wild Aid for people who don't know and and what is happening right now in

1:56.2

terms of the global pandemic and the wildlife trade and what you do how it all connects.

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Well I've been investigating and working on illegal wildlife trafficking for nearly 30 years now.

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And as part of that I used to undercover investigations going to places like these markets that you've

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seen in China.

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That's 25 years ago in Guangzhou in China

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