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Peter Kafka on the 'Netflix effect' and the newly crowded landscape of streaming services

Reliable Sources

CNN

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3.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Netflix "bent the world to the Netflix model," Peter Kafka says, and its competitors are now many laps behind. Kafka, the co-host the current season of Recode’s "Land of the Giants" podcast, talks with Brian Stelter about the streaming service’s growth and worldwide reach. He describes Netflix’s "frenemy relationship" with media companies that both supply programming and compete with the service. Kafka also comments on Netflix's "astonishing" 160 Emmy wins and the impact of challengers like HBO Max, Disney+ and Peacock.

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0:00.0

Disney Plus, HBO Max, Peacock, how do these new streaming services size up when standing next to Netflix?

0:11.0

That's one of the questions on this week's Reliable Sources Podcast. So let's cue the music.

0:17.0

I'm Brian Stelter. I'm your host of this weekly podcast edition of Reliable Sources,

0:22.0

where we can go more in depth talking

0:25.0

about the state of the media and the state of the media business. This week I

0:30.9

want to talk about the streaming wars better known as the streaming Olympics as my colleague Frank Pilata likes to call them

0:38.4

Because there isn't one single winner in these streaming competitions, but there are many challengers to Netflix, which is far ahead of the rest.

0:48.0

Peter Kafka is the co-host of a new podcast series called Land of the Giants.

0:55.0

Season 2 of Land of the Giants is all about Netflix and how it came to power.

1:01.3

Kafka is also the host of Reccode Media and he's joining me now.

1:06.0

Peter, thanks for coming on.

1:08.0

Thanks for having me, Brian.

1:10.0

You were coming up on your final episode of Land of the Giants exploring this business model for Netflix, this incredible culture at Netflix and all the rest.

1:20.0

And I want to get into all of that. Is it fair to say that this is Netflix's world

1:24.1

and every other media company is just living in it but Netflix is the world.

1:28.7

Netflix has sort of bent the world to to the Netflix, which is really amazing.

1:34.4

And we kind of take it for granted now that we live in a Netflix world,

1:38.0

and that would not have been clear, even five years ago.

1:41.6

But yeah, it is their world. When did that start to happen?

1:44.8

Like so you say five years ago. Was there a single inflection point?

1:49.6

I mean they started streaming in 10 years ago, 11 years ago now.

1:54.0

It's actually 13 years ago.

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