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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about

politics. It's Thursday, July 11th. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

After the Egyptian military deposed President Morsi last week, the Obama administration was

careful not to call it a coup.

Asked about that on Monday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said,

It is also important to acknowledge that tens of millions of Egyptians had legitimate grievances

with President Morsi's undemocratic form of governance, and they do not believe that this was a coup.

Indeed, they were demanding a new

government. Peter Hester is reporting from Cairo, and John Lee Anderson is in London. So,

John Lee, I want to start with you because over your career, you've covered a number of

revolutions. And I want to ask you, when the military overthrows the democratically elected president,

how is that not a coup? Briefly.

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