Well, he then turned to, I'm surprised you're trying to take away women's rights,

and actually standing against women's rights.

He is at that stage working for legalization of abortion.

I said, Mr. Mandela, you are questioning the Christianity of people who over 40 years ago legalized apartheid.

I'll tell you, Mr. Mandela, it won't be 40 years from now.

People question your humanity for legalizing abortion.

You're replacing apartheid with abortion, and abortion is worth. Abortion does not just restrict a baby's right as to where it can live or put it on a separate voters role or limit where it can swim or which cinemas it can go to, abortion takes

where the baby is right to live.

Even before it's taken its first breath outside the womb, you're advocating discrimination

of basis of age.

You're replacing discrimination of race with discrimination of base of age.

And I said the worst apartheid is that which separates a baby from its mother, from its life support,

and at a critical stage and kills it.

Mr. Mandela, what you are advocating is worse than what you have replaced.

And he was a bit more unsettled.

Now this was Thursday, Monday morning, knock on the door, two senior representatives of the

South Korean Revenue Service, which is our equivalent of your IRS.

And they started an intensive seven-year audit. They went back six years, they carried on for seven years.

So we had a 13-year audit.

Myself, my wife, personally, and every ministry we were involved with.

Personally, we books, African Action, Frontline Fellowship.

We were all audited.

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