Welcome to another edition of the Conversations That Matter podcast. My name is John Harris. We have a special guest with us today Dr. Peter Hammond and he's coming from a long way. He's not in the United States, as you can probably tell, from his accent.

You can go to frontline mission essay.org and find out more about him and the books he's written.

But he's with Frontline Fellowship and he has some amazing stories.

I've read some of them, heard some of them, and we're going to talk a little bit

about the parallels that maybe he sees between what's happened in South Africa, maybe to some extent

Rhodesia where he grew up and then what's happening in the United States because some of the same ideas

taking down you know monuments to people, the critical race theory stuff, and the list goes on, the LGBT agenda, etc.

They've taken deeper routes in South Africa in some ways and so Dr. Peter

Hammond thank you so much for being willing to come on and explain this to

American Christians. Thank you Johnson. Good to be with you.

It's a real privilege, honor to be with you and your country's not much in our prayers right now.

Yes, we are, you know, I'm recording this on the day that Joe Biden is going to take the oath of office in Washington, most heavily guarded inauguration in the history of this country, and we're seeing, we're seeing just all kinds of things the vilification of

political enemies to an extent I've never seen shutting down a free speech

double standard on violence it can be committed by the left.

That's fine, that's justice,

but if it's by the right, it's wrong.

We have the corporations and the government

in bed together to sanction conservatives.

And I just wanted to hear from you,

because I know that in South Africa,

some of these same things have been going on for a long time.

So if you wouldn't mind, you can take as long as as you want maybe walk us through kind of the history in South Africa of some of these ideas and how they played out how Marxism will just call it what it is has affected the country and then how have you and

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