Welcome to Words Matter with Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart.

Welcome to Words Matter, I'm Katie Barlow.

Our goal is to promote objective reality.

As a wise man once said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts.

Words have power and words have consequences.

Joe and I are honored to be joined today by award-winning author and chief White House

correspondent for The New York Times, Peter Baker.

Peter has covered four presidents as a reporter, president's Trump and Obama for The New York

Times and George W. Bush and Bill Clinton for The Washington Post.

He is also the author of five books, including Obama, The Call of History, Days of Fire,

Bush and Cheney in the White House and inside the impeachment and trial of William Jefferson

Clinton.

Peter Baker, welcome to Words Matter.

Thanks for having me, appreciate it.

Joe, since you and Peter have a history together with the White House press room, we'll

let you bathe the dog today.

I have waited so long to turn the tables on this bigger here.

This is going to be hard.

I want to talk about your book.

You wrote, if not the, but one of the most definitive books on the Obama presidency in the

upside down world of Donald Trump, you had to go back at it and kind of write a new

version of it based on what happened after, you know, kind of in the last year.

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