Pete Wehner: Hegseth’s Redemption Bromides, Trump’s Rampant Blasphemies & Fast Car’s Radiant Beatitude

Impolitic with John Heilemann

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News, Politics

4.8 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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John is joined by Pete Wehner—veteran of the Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 administrations turned eloquent Never Trumper—to discuss the once and future president's transformation of the GOP, his perplexing appeal to the Christian Right, and more. Wehner explains why the best summation of Trump’s agenda comes from Michel Caine as Alfred in The Dark Knight (“Some men just want to watch the world burn”); Pete Hegseth’s redemption narrative and invocations of his Lord and savior ring so hollow; and so many Evangelicals are so devoted to Trump in spite of his lack of godly virtues. Wehner and John also harken back to the magical duet of Tracy Chapman's Fast Car by Chapman and Luke Combs at this year's Grammy's, and riff on why the emotional outpouring it triggered was a hopeful sign for our politics and culture. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:36.9	Aloha and namaste everyone and welcome Tim Pottig with John Heilman, a puck and Odyssey joint,
0:42.5	featuring lively, in-depth, sometimes ever so slightly profane conversations with the people
0:47.9	who roam the corridors of power and influence in America, weaving the warp and wharf of our
0:52.4	politics and culture.
1:12.4	As depressed, discouraged, and down in the mouth, as Democrats are, about Donald Trump's emphatic victory, a little more than a month ago, their degree of despond is nothing compared to the deep and abiding depression and disillusionment that pervades the ranks of America's never Trump Republicans.
1:17.9	The other day on the bulwark, my homie Tim Miller, filling in for the formidable Jonathan B. last,
1:27.6	posted a piece entitled, Don't Let Donald Trump Take Your Soul 2, in which he admitted to being so out of sorts since Election Day that some of his friends are, quote, concerned that this election will be My Joker origin story.
1:32.2	Tim and his bulwark co-conspirators, Bill Crystal, Sarah Longwell, George Conway, and J.B.L
1:36.8	are among the best-known chieftains in the Never Trump tribe.
1:40.7	And over the past nine and a half years since that golden Trump Tower escalator deposited
1:44.9	the once in future president and persistent constitutional vandal onto the national stage,
1:50.3	a bunch of other apostatic geo peers from former high-level strategists such as Stuart Stevens,
1:56.2	Rick Wilson, and my Hacks-on-Tap co-host Mike Murphy, to Wordsmiths such as David From and David French,
2:02.0	to TV hosts like my pals Nicole Wallace and Joe Scarborough, to legislators like Liz Cheney
2:08.0	and Adam Kinzinger have become household names as well. Our guest today isn't as famous as any of the
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