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Pete Buttigieg Thinks Democrats Can't Go Back

Pod Save America

Crooked Media

News, Politics

4.6 • 83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Pete Buttigieg—former South Bend mayor, 2020 presidential candidate, and Transportation Secretary—sits down with Jon Favreau to discuss how much of the status quo Democrats should aim to restore (if any) if they win in 2026, what the party needs to change to effectively message around Trump’s broken promises, and what Pete thinks of JD Vance’s rapid ascent to power—and the values he’s abandoned along the way. Then, Lovett joins Jon to answer listener questions about building a Democratic Project 2029, our nation’s new gerrymandering war, and whether Barack Obama is right about ketchup’s place on a burger.

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ZipRecruiter is the smartest way to hire. Welcome to POTSave America. I'm John Favro. My guest this Sunday is Pete Buttigieg, former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, presidential candidate in 2020, transportation secretary in the Biden administration. And now he's just

2:02.0

Pete. He's just out there and he's making the rounds. And we're really excited that he sat down

2:07.5

with us at Podze of America. We talked about the future of the Democratic Party, whether we're

2:12.3

a dictatorship yet, J.D. Vance, AI, Biden and the 2024 campaign, Gaza, lots more. It was a great conversation

2:19.9

with Pete and stick around after the conversation because John Lovett is going to join me and we

2:26.2

are going to answer a few listener questions. Now, here's my conversation with Pete Buttigieg.

2:39.3

Pete, welcome back to the pod. Thanks. Good to be with you again.

2:48.1

So we are now six months into Donald Trump's second term. Feels like six years. How are you feeling?

2:51.2

I mean, it's not great, right?

2:56.7

So many of the things that we worried about that we feared that we saw coming were seeing even more of that than we would have guessed.

2:58.7

And one of the things that strikes me is it's not just the things that the left worried

3:03.2

about or that liberals worried about.

3:05.1

It's things that traditionally conservatives worried about.

3:08.5

Like I've been thinking back to dorm room arguments I had with libertarians, you know,

3:13.7

when I was in college who thought that like someday, if we weren't careful, there would be,

3:18.8

you know, masked federal agents snatching people off the streets just because of what they put

3:23.1

in an op-ed. I was like,

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that is such a crazy libertarian fever dream. And now that's happening. So all of that, obviously,

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