Pete Buttigieg Shreds Trump’s “Affordability” Fantasy
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🗓️ 25 February 2026
⏱️ 16 minutes
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After the State of the Union, Tim Miller spoke with Pete Buttigieg for a rapid-fire breakdown of the speech. They took on affordability, immigration, corruption, AI, corporate capitulation to Trump, and what Democrats need to do differently.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. It's Tim Miller from the bulwark here last night. Late night, I had Mayor Slaher Pete Buttigieg on after our State of the Union live stream was deep into live stream hours in. So we wanted to pull it out here for folks who missed it, who decided not to suffer through the Trump speech. I got to ask about a bunch of different stuff. Take questions from you guys. So I'm looking down and getting feedback from our listeners, which we really appreciated. |
| 0:26.6 | Subscribe to the feed in the future if you want me to be pulling out your subscriber questions. |
| 0:31.6 | So Pete had a bunch to say. |
| 0:33.6 | It was Pete. |
| 0:34.6 | It was classic Pete. |
| 0:35.6 | So stick around for that. Subscribe subscribe we'll see you soon my main |
| 0:40.2 | question you you sat there you witnessed history i don't know if you know this uh this is the |
| 0:45.5 | longest state of the union on record in the history of the republic there's never been a longer |
| 0:49.9 | state of the union why did you watch it that's a great a great question. I guess, you know, I can't say that |
| 0:57.7 | I watched it hoping that I would learn something. I guess I watched it because I promised to talk |
| 1:03.1 | about it on television afterwards. Let me say this. I think the reason a lot of real people watch |
| 1:07.4 | the state of the union is they want to know what it's going to mean to them, right? You imagine, |
| 1:17.2 | you know, I just caught up uh uh after uh bedtime with chastin he's putting the kids down at home right now or you know he put them down and then he follows along a lot of people around the country |
| 1:21.6 | are doing that you get done with dinner you put your kids to bed and then you tune in to see if your |
| 1:25.6 | president can tell you how he's going to make your life better, especially because this president has made your life worse, right? A year ago, he was promising the costs were going to go down. He has directly driven them up. And it would have been nice to hear some indication of what he was going to do differently this time in order to have different results. But obviously that's not what happened. |
| 1:45.5 | But I think a lot of people around America, if they were hoping to get some indication |
| 1:48.8 | how their everyday lives were going to be better, then they're going to be disappointed |
| 1:53.6 | because at most they heard the same empty promises that were used to from this president. |
| 1:58.2 | And, you know, I don't take this wrong way. |
| 1:59.7 | I don't want to minimize you, but I feel like you can relate to the average American. You're kind of an unemployed American now. |
| 2:05.4 | And so if you didn't have to be on TV or with me after, I feel like you kind of would have |
| 2:11.1 | turned it off, right? I mean, like, it was extremely boring. You know, great job for AI is to ask it to summarize it for you so you can read it in the morning. Right. I mean, yeah. We heard some big news on AI that we are going to have a state managed economy now where Trump is going to demand that the, Trump and the tech oligarchs have a deal. And they're going to make sure to pay for the data centers. And if they don't, |
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